Thanks anon! I thought about it too, but the fact that he stated he hates sci-fi, can’t read it, can’t watch it, can’t write it make me thinks it’s not that. We’ll see…
Étiquette : peter morgan
I want to believe you’re right but even though they didn’t include a picture of them together why would a reputable news source put that in there if they weren’t sure it was true?
Reputable news source? Tatler is a photography magazine for the Britain upper class with gossips and celebrity / royals pictures from parties and ceremonies. As there’s no picture with this article, I assume it’s only gossip based on Gillian attending the BFI dinner and the daily mail article following this event. If the Daily Mail didn’t bother you, Tatler shouldn’t either.
Am I missing something? Is there a new article about them out? JHH, I love you and the rest of this awesome gillovny bunch, so I stay away from the other stupid blogs who insist on shipping GA and PM. When I saw that anon about « the tatler » I assumed it was the magazine? You’re giving me a heart attack answering that anon but I can’t find any article? What article? Please don’t make me hunt on sites I despise to find it!
Calm down, anon😀 it’s just one more gossip thing : http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/february-2017/tatler-most-invited-2017
What do you think about gunningforabasementoffice’s post? I’m afraid to start to believe that really this whole pm thing is just a professional arrangement. I’m not that intelligent and many things are still an enigma to me but she sounds so well, she really did good research and she seemed to know about that stuff a lot! There is really too many connections we can’t ignore and they really don’t seem to be romanticly involve! Can we all have hopes that pm will disappear from our lives soon?
First of all, don’t say you’re not that intelligent. It has nothing to do with that and we’re all intelligent enough to make our own opinion based on what we know to be true.
We know they’ve attended the same events, sometimes together, sometimes not. We know Gillian has been promoting The Crown. We know she’s linked to Netflix and so is PM. We know she acknowledged him in her book. And now, we know the publishing company of her book is tied up to his reps agency.
To me, the puzzle starts to take shape, and in my opinion, it looks more and more like a professional relationship. It looks like some publicist’s move to glamorize his image and seriousize (not a word, right?) hers by associating them and maybe making them work together. It looks like Gillian is going to be invested in his project, as an actress, producer, or writer. So I could be wrong, but after reading @gunningforabasementoffice ’s post, it just looks less and less like they’re a couple.
About the book mention…
I’ve had a lot of anons (most of them very angry) writing about We almost every day. And I apologize that I haven’t been able to respond to all of you, but also that it’s taken me a while to even make a post on the topic. I was going to publish it as an answer to an ask, but since all the asks have had some very sharp things to say, I don’t feel comfortable making them public.
So. About the thanks in Gillian’s We book. Everyone knows by now that she thanked Peter Morgan. Here are some things to keep in mind: the book was originally supposed to be published this autumn, so it had to have been finished by early to mid 2016.
Now here are some other things that haven’t yet been discussed. The casting agency that represents PM in the US is UTA. UTA and Atria Books (the publisher of Gillian’s We book) have a joined partnership in publishing, and co-own Keyword Press.
you know what i don’t get? Gillian posted a lot about the crown, she supported the show by going to the globes and so on. and we know she went to his dinner, so why doesn’t she aknowledge his honor in a little tweet like she always did when it was about the show itself. she promoted the shit out of the crown, so nobody would have been surprised if she congratulated him… i guess we all know why though! much greetings! <3
Absolutely! She never talks about him personally but about his work, which is weird. Seems like she didn’t pronounce a discourse during the dinner either, and those pictures and videos show very little interactions, as it would be between two people who have a working relationship.
I was expecting a tweet after the dinner, maybe she didn’t do it because of what happened on Twitter, or maybe she just didn’t want to. She would have done it right away for a real friend, not matter what her fans may think because she does whatever the fuck she wants… so….
During press for her new film yesterday GA said she thinks she’s played Scully for long enough and that she’s not a character she misses. If I was a betting woman, I’d say it’ll take a shit ton of persuading for her to do the show again. Which brings me to my next point: if she was dating DD you’d think she’d jump at the chance to spend several months with him in Canada, but nope. She’d rather be in London with a certain other Jewish man.
I’ll refrain from saying “what man” again.
But since I’ve started answering, PM is also spending time with his kids in Austria. So he isn’t in London full-time.
Funny, everyone is excited to say Gillian is running to PM’s side, supporting him, proud of him, spending time with him, and no one thinks that for one moment it’s hypocritical? When anyone on the Gillovny side dared to suggest that Gillian was spending time in NY with David, the accusation was that we were calling her a bad mother and neglectful. When we said she was proud of David – and openly so! – we were shouted down and told it’s all PR, but we’re too stupid to see that. When anyone said anything about David spending time in London, we were immediately told there’s no proof and he has two teens here who need him, so he can’t just go be with a woman (as if teens aren’t self-reliant). When we suggested that David and Gillian had gone off on holiday together, we were told that we were living in a laughable fantasy and that they have kids, so they would never do that. As if going on holiday was a sin, and as if two adults spending time together required the 24 hour presence of children.
So, I don’t think she’s been in London for anything PM related. Her kids live with her, and there’s their dad to consider. We know nothing about Mark’s schedule and it’s quite possible that he’s not been able to have the kids as often as he had while he goes through a busy period. Who knows. Gillian’s also been filming in the US, had events in the US, and still has her full US team working for her. Anyone no longer interested in working in the US wouldn’t continue to keep an entire team on staff.
I’ll say it again and I’ll keep saying it. There’s absolutely nothing in Gillian’s behaviour, interaction or words that suggests PM is anything but professional (or, at the most, a friend) to her. If you want to believe otherwise, you’re entitled. I know what I believe and feel strongly about, and have no reason to think otherwise, especially given what we’ve seen and what logic dictates.
People is now writing now on tumblr about Ga; double standards / « Follow your dreams, not your boyfriends’ / Keep ignoring us, keep not saying shit about what the fuck you’re doing. Let’s forget att without us you would not be there. – It’s a mess. People should of course not attack her and her choices. But she lives in public because of her job as she has chosen. I can not help thinking that people are right .. Am I a bad person? because I I think they are right??
I don’t think you’re a bad person and I have an inbox full of people who are angry and confused.
I don’t think many people know, or are aware, that contracts almost always include clauses that state certain aspects or entire things, for that matter, can’t be commented on in public and can’t be discussed. In order to override that, there would need to be a release clause granted. The only people who can issue one is the person holding the contract. If they refuse, there’s nothing that you can do. You’re bound to it.
So, because I believe this is nothing more than a professional arrangement (and the more we see of Gillian and PM the more that becomes apparent), and I know this answer will get me an inbox full of hate, I’m not going to change my stance from what I know, without any doubt, to be true. This is how contracts work and this is how professional arrangements are made. Now before I’m misunderstood, I’m not saying this is a showmance. Not at all. There’s nothing romance or show about it. This is something else entirely and so many things show that, prove that and continue to reinforce it.
So while fans are understandably upset that Gillian isn’t making a statement, the reality is, she may be unable to (either at all or for the time being) and she’s also stubborn. We know that. Yes, this is a mess and yes, there should be some sort of damage control started to salvage what’s salvageable. I still think that. But if there’s no release (or her PR isn’t seeking one), then they’re going to have to go another route.
Right now, there are going to be two ways to get around this: interviews for her book will be coming up and it’ll be the perfect time for her to say she’s single or debunk the PM rumour in some other way (because she’s commented on things months after the fact previously and she does it well, when fans are least expecting it), OR once season 11 happens, and I fully believe it will, she and David will show with their interaction that there is no other man.
But for some people, they’ll always see only what they want to see. So even when we had Gillian and David being openly close to one another, and even when denying relationships is a fact of celebrity life, there seemed to be little thought or consideration given to these things.
So no, you aren’t a bad fan for feeling what you feel. But at least you’re thinking about it and talking about it. You’re trying to understand it. I fully respect anyone who is trying to do that even if they’re confused and feeling hurt.
And that’s far more than can be said for the portion of the fandom that’s busy posturing, but without any knowledge, and policing others.
👆👆👆 This is so spot on👆👆👆
I love your answers a lot, girl!
Maybe they didn’t send contradictory messages all these months. Maybe they didn’t send any messages at all. Maybe we took all these things as messages because that is what we needed. The part of the fandom who hates this relationship they receive the messages they fit their opinion and the part that likes it received the messages that fit their opinion. The contradictory messages maybe in reality were just contradictory interpretations on behalf of the fans.
It’s slightly contradictory to attend someone’s event, then be rumored to be dating this person, then show up at another event but with another date, then go together at the Golden Globes but not walk the red carpet together, then show up again at another event still not as his date. Not even going to talk about the face she makes every time she’s around him. Sounds like contradictory messages to me, but maybe I’m wrong!
This mess in not her PR’s fault, they only have whatever material they have to work with. I’m sure they have their professional opinion, but if G chooses to be with that guy, do the reveal this way, not look happy in pics with him, etc. it’s all her. I’m sure after 25 years in the industry she knows what the right things to do are, but clearly she’s making her stand with some recklessness and a whole lot of FU. It’s a cluster waiting to happen with fandom as crazy as this and she knows it.
I don’t agree with you, anon. I know the demagogy here tends to make us say “she doesn’t owe us anything, it’s our fault if we are so invested in her private life”, but guess what? She is not a private person. She is not for 25 years. So yes, she doesn’t owe us to be with who we want her to be with, or to fulfill fans’ fantasies, but this is totally a PR fault, in my opinion.
In both cases, if she’s dating him or not, it could have been handled so much better. It lasts since October. We’re in late February. How many occasions did they miss to properly confirm or deny, to explain if they were linked professionally or personally? For 5 months, how many contradictory messages did they send to the fandom, probably expecting us to understand what was going on, to believe this or that, but actually only being more confusing?
They’ve decided to ignore everything, to let it flow. As you said, Gillian isn’t a beginner, nor is her team. They know what’s going on, but they’ve decided to not to say anything, to not address the rumor, on purpose, hoping for the best. But now the worst is happening, now it’s damaging her image for real, now it can even impact her work, the sales of her book, xfiles(!), Viceroy’s House, (which by the way is supposed to be an important movie on a heavy subject lead by Gillian who is supposed to bring viewers, but that everyone ignored yesterday and focused on her private life).
All of that is the result of Gillian’s silence on the last five months. So I don’t blame her, because we all know in situations like this, she kept living her life and did at she was told because she has PR, publicists, lawyers around her who are supposed to work this out for her. But I think they did it the wrong way, and fixing it is going to be impossible now.
I’m trying to think, but I can’t even start to find one other example of situation like this with another celebrity.
I feel for Gillian who is going to wake up with that. I feel for David, because he was dragged into this to the point of cancelling a tv appearance. But it’s time to stop and start to answer question now.
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