Étiquette : peter morgan

your anons don’t make any sense….. according to your theory (which I agree with), Gillian went to the golden globes to support THE CROWN, not the individual actors. So, the reason she’s not at the SAG awards isn’t because Peter Morgan’s not there, it’s because tonight isn’t about the show but the actors themselves,

Thank you, anon. There wasn’t any of the writers or producers. Gillian is not a member of the cast, so why the hell would she attend the SAG with Claire Foy and Matt Smith? That doesn’t make any sense. She doesn’t live to promote The Crown. She attends when he attends. It doesn’t mean they’re together. It will mean they’re a couple when he will attend her events. That did not happen yet, even when he was in NY and she had this book event with all these influent people and writers and he was in NY too. She went at his event but he didn’t go to hers. When this will happen, I will agree my theory will be invalidated. For now, it just means she’s closer to the crew and the financial team (PM, Daldry, those people around their table at the Globes ceremony and after party) than the cast. Even if I’m sure she will congratulate Claire Foy with a tweet or something.

Your answer re: something being « off » about G promoting the Crown is so true. I am one who is fairly convinced that she is seeing Peter, but the way in which she has been tweeting about, sharing pics of, showing up for all these Crown events is VERY unlike someone who everyone always claims is « very private » with her personal life. There’s a major disconnect there. I would put money on her being in season 3 and/or a producer. Which I think is part of why she doesn’t have time to do more XF now.

The more I think about it, the more I’d go with the producing theory. It doesn’t mean she can’t also be dating him, but to me, it’s more likely a coworker relationship than a romantic one. And you’re right, she’s very private, she controls everything she does regarding her private life and doesn’t allow press or fans scrutiny, so putting herself under the spot like that is very uncharacteristic, which makes me think appearances are maybe deceptive. 

Nobody promotes their couples’ work on their official websites. Gillian Anderson is a professional actor, not a teenager posting on Facebook. You’re into this business, JHH. Once a rumour saying she was dating the creator of the series appeared, what credibility does her opinion still have (in promotional terms) if they’re personally involved? Have you ever seen this type of publicity on an official website? I can’t get my head around this promotion of « The Crown » on her own webpage.

This kind of promotion, the tweets, the events attendances, and the link on her official website are contractual, in my opinion. It’s clearly not what you do when you’re in a relationship, especially when you’re not out yet. Long time official couples can promote each other’s works, no one is surprised when Beyonce promotes Jay Z’ albums (that’s the first example I had in mind, sorry) because they’re out, official, married and have a child. But there are rules to follow in this industry, either you’re a big worldwide celebrity or not. First, you come out. Then you promote your partner. Gillian promoted The Crown even before we heard about PM. She keeps hanging out with him, yet, nothing has been confirmed about their supposed relationship. To me, it just means there’s no relationship at all, only a work partnership. I think she’s more involved with the show than with him because everything they’ve done together was about it. 

That said, I also think she’d made a PR mistake, or was badly advised. Because if she’s dating him, she’ll be accused to have over-promoted his show, even more than her own projects, people already have a bad opinion on him and will take him and their couple responsible for pushing xf back, and it can be seen as a bad move from a major part of her fandom. If she’s not dating him and will be involved in The Crown, she needs to clarify the situation before it’s announced or we all know what she’ll be accused to. I bet her involvement in The Crown will be announced in the next few months, when the green light for the third season is official, but before that, she’ll make a random interview when a journalist will ask her directly or not, and she’ll make it clear that she’s not and has never been dating him. That’s how I see it… We’ll see…

Fair enough, JHH. You’ve been frank and balanced, as always. Anyway, whatever she does in her private life, it only concerns her unless she’s blending both. That’s what troubles me. Apparently many fans have taken for granted that she’s dating Morgan. And I don’t get their thoughts. Do they think GA is promoting the hell out of « The Crown » so blatantly (even more than some of her own projects) because she’s in a relationship with his creator? Do they think that GA is using her official website 1

to advertise her new boyfriend’s show? Seriously? How offensive and unprofessional is that? How feminist and reasonable? Do you see Peter Morgan promoting Gillian’s work? Therefore, who is this Gillian Anderson who, supposedly, is more invested in the promotion of “The Crown” (because she’s with Morgan) than let’s say… “War & Peace” where she actually appears? Don’t they think something is off? 2

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There’s indeed something off, if some people refuse to see it, it’s okay, but I do. She’d never promoted anything as hard as she’s promoting this show, I guess it’s working because half of the fandom would have never heard of it without this mess. When he’ll start to attend events for her and to equally promote her works, then I’ll give up, but I don’t see that coming. He only said he watched The Fall… Okay… Like everyone else who has Netflix UK, I guess… People should know how this business works for real before saying Gillian only promoted the crown because she’s proud of her boyfriend. That’s not how it works. At all. But you know, eventually, the truth will surface, and I’m fairly confident about it. 

how come that you still believe in gillovny? I wish I had your confidence but after the golden globes I can’t believe in them anymore. the fact that Gillian went as each other’s plus one says a lot! I can’t just ignore what happened that night and you shouldn’t either but I still love you and seeing your positiveness makes me less sad

I’m actually not ignoring anything. I taking every facts into consideration, and the Golden Globes too, where nothing happened at all. They were here, at the same table, and then what? Look, it’s simple, if she’s not involved in The Crown in some way shape or form, I would have been wrong all along. If he attends events related to her own project with her, I would have been wrong all along too. But as long as it’s not happening, as long as we don’t have candids of them, as long as the press don’t pick up the story, for me, this is just a baseless rumor created by fans. 

I see some tumblr´s write about Berlin and the premiere of V. House and that GA is takeing PM with her as a date .. Have I missed something..? It is blogs that I thought believed in Gillovny… Is it suddenly officially GA and PM are a couple? Hope it is not true.. I still believe in DD and GA, but then I become very nervous when gillovny bloggers suddenly writes about PM speaking German, and that it would be reasonable for GA to bring him, as he is her partner? Did I miss something???

You haven’t missed anything. Gillian isn’t even officially scheduled to attend the ¨Premiere in Berlin. I’d honestly be shocked  if she attends with him. For now, they’ve only attended events about The Crown, maybe they’ll keep doing it, maybe not, but I don’t believe it’ll go above that. I believe she’s linked to this show, but not to really to him, so to me, there’s no reason for him to attend the premiere of his movie and I’m not stressing about it. 

I don’t know who said that, but PM speaking German isn’t relevant. It’s the last reason why she would bring him. It’s kinda funny to think she needs a translator lol! Berlinales is a professional cinematographic event. It’s basically like Festival de Cannes, where everyone speaks English, she’ll be fine on her own, you can reassure the other bloggers about that. 😀

I wonder, how is your confidence about gillovny these days? And if you more believe in them being together or her being with PM? So many gillovny blogs have stopped believe that it kind of scared me.

gunningforabasementoffice:

My confidence level is fine. For me to think and believe differently than I do, I would need a whole lot more than what we have, which is basically nothing. I won’t go into everything again, mostly because I’ve already made it clear, but there’s still nothing that makes me want to change mind on Gillovny even a little.

I will say this: if PM ever shows up with Gillian at an event not affiliated to The Crown, then that would be something significant. Apparently, according to the people shipping her with him, they’ve been together since summer. If that’s the case, then where was he at the events that Gillian had between September and January? (I’m excluding HB, because, again, The Crown and Harper’s Bazaar were affiliated and that could easily be verified.) Gillian and David have appeared more often for each other at non-XF related events over the years.

I know a lot of Gillovny blogs have deleted. That’s unfortunate. It was disheartening to a lot of people when others around them felt so upset that they left. But when season 11 happens (and I believe it will), they’ll probably be back.

Loud voices in large numbers can be easily convincing to a lot of people, but it’s always wise to think about what’s being said and to weigh it against what you see, as well as what you already know. When it doesn’t make sense, there’s a reason for it. (And I don’t mean people who don’t understand professional options available to every actor, studio, producer and project.)

All things resolve. Eventually, this will, too.

Ask yourself why Gillian is so friendly with the cast and crew of The Crown. It’s not because she’s appearing in it. Season 2 is halfway through filming and it would’ve been announced by now if she was going to be in it. She wouldn’t be hanging out with people she hadn’t worked with yet, either. The most likely explanation is that she knows them so well because she’s dating their boss and sees them regularly.

I’m sure you can think better than this. “She knows their boss!” Seriously? Look, if she’s with him, why didn’t he march with her? If the crown was filming, why isn’t he on this pic rather than the producer? Do you seriously think that if she’s dating PM she spends all her free time hanging out with her boyfriend’s coworkers? Who does that? He probably doesn’t do that himself.
This guy was at their table at the GG, she probably met him at the Premiere, or maybe she knew him before, it’s a small world.
There’s an article which just came out about The Crown season 3. They’re recasting everyone because the characters need to be older. Gillian could legit be in it, there might be a lot of discussions about it right now, she could be a producer too, she could be a lot of thing about this show. It doesn’t mean she’s not dating PM, but it doesn’t mean she is either.
There is something about this show, and I’m like 99% sure about that.

what is your opinion about gillovny and gilliagan (or whatever). Are there more PM fans after the week or less? I wonder… I have stopped following every single person who was write anything about PM so I see only gillovny at my dash and don’t know what the reality is now.

I don’t think there’s such a thing as PM fans. There are people accepting what they think to be the truth, other trying to respect what they think to be Gillian’s life, and other who are being utterly provoking the Gillovny fandom. But in the end, I don’t believe the major part of Gillian’s fandom will ever be PM’s fans.

I’ve unfollowed a bunch of bloggers, blocked one or two, but as I don’t like to live in my own bubble, I keep following some PM believers (who had never been Gillovny anyway), the ones who are respectful and nice and just expressing their beliefs without mocking and shaming others’, and I don’t see any *love* for him. Acceptance, maybe, but that’s all.